<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">Español - Portugués </FONT><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">Español</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">Aunque no tengo ninguna experiencia directa con electrodos de descarga en la VCI, existen muchas técnicas descritas para niños más pequeños, muchas de las cuales son útiles porque las desfibrilaciones en niños son generalmente menores. Yo creo que las preferencias de muchos electrofisiólogos pediatras en niños pequeños es evitar el espacio intravascular completamente para, al menos, los electrodos de descarga. Las opciones descritas incluyen: </FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal GB18030 Bitmap; min-height: 17px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">- Electrodos subcutáneos en la parte posterior (derivación única, disposición o parche) </FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">- Electrodo endocárdico pasado a través del pericardio inferior, alrededor del corazón y sujetado la parte superior cerca de las venas pulmonares. </FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">- Un parche o electrodo fijado a la pleura entre los segmentos del pulmón posteriores al corazón.</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">- Cajas ubicadas en la pared abdominal o entre el pericardio y la pleura en la parte inferior. </FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal GB18030 Bitmap; min-height: 17px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">En conclusión, cualquier cosa que evite una derivación de descarga en el VD, se prefiere en pacientes que no estén cerca de un tamaño corporal adulto, e incluso puede ser mejor para pacientes jóvenes que estén cerca de la adultez debido a problemas con el mantenimiento de las derivaciones a largo plazo. </FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal GB18030 Bitmap; min-height: 17px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">J. Philip Saul, M.D.</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">Director, The Children's Heart Program of South Carolina</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">Physician-in-Chief, MUSC Children's Hospital</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">Medical University of South Carolina</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">-----------------</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">Embora eu tenha experiência direta com shock coil na VCI, existem muitas técnicas descritas para crianças menores, muitas das quais têm utilidade por que os Limiares de desfibrilação (DFT) nas crianças são geralmente menores. Eu penso que a preferência de muitos Eletrofisiologistas pediátricos nas crianças menores é proibir completamente o espaço intravascular pelo menos para os shock coils. As opções descritas incluem:</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Lucida Grande; min-height: 16px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">- Coils subcutâneos nas costas (eletrodo único, array ou patch)</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Lucida Grande; min-height: 16px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">- Coil endocárdico passado pelo pericárdio inferior, ao redor do coração e preso superriormente perto das veias pulmonares.</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">- Um patch ou coil costurado na pleura entre os segmentos pulmonares posterior ao coração.</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">- Caixas colocadas na parede abdominal ou entre o pericárdio e a pleura inferiormente.</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Lucida Grande; min-height: 16px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">A linha de fundamento é que algo que proiba o eletrodo de choque no VD é preferido para pacientes que não estão próximos ao tamanho adulto, e pode mesmo ser melhor para pacientes jovens próximo ao tamanho adulto devido aos problemas com manutenção a longo prazo.</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Lucida Grande; min-height: 16px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">J. Philip Saul, M.D.</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">Director, The Children's Heart Program of South Carolina</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">Physician-in-Chief, MUSC Children's Hospital</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">Medical University of South Carolina</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial"><BR></FONT><DIV> <SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">--</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">Dr.</FONT><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial"> </FONT></SPAN><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">Sergio</FONT><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial"> </FONT></SPAN><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">Dubner</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">President</FONT><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial"> </FONT></SPAN><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">of</FONT><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial"> </FONT></SPAN><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">Scientific</FONT><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial"> </FONT></SPAN><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">Committee</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Lucida Grande; min-height: 16px; ; font-family: Lucida Grande; font-size: 13px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;"><BR style="font-family: Lucida Grande; font-size: 13px; "></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">Dr.</FONT><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial"> </FONT></SPAN><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">Edgardo</FONT><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial"> </FONT></SPAN><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">Schapachnik</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">President</FONT><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial"> </FONT></SPAN><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">of</FONT><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial"> </FONT></SPAN><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">Steering</FONT><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial"> </FONT></SPAN><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">Committee</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></FONT></DIV></SPAN></DIV><DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial"><BR></FONT></DIV> <FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">Español - Portugués</FONT><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">Español</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">El implante de CDI en niños es un problema importante. El primer problema es el implante de la derivación del CDI dentro del ventrículo derecho con electrodo no adecuado para el tamaño de la cavidad y el desarrollo de adherencias entre el electrodo y la válvula tricúspide. En esta población tendremos que extraer estas derivaciones durante el seguimiento de estos pacientes, y en nuestra experiencia, esta extracción es un desafío, incluso en derivaciones recientes. Por lo tanto, recientemente hemos usado la técnica descrita por GASPARINI y cols (J Cardiovasc Electrophysiol, Vol. 16, pp. 1381-1383) con electrodo en la vena-cava inferior. ¿Cuál es su experiencia con esta técnica?</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Lucida Grande; min-height: 16px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">Didier Klug, MD, PhD</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">Hôpital cardiologique de Lille</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">University of Lille</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">France</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">-----------------------------</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">Portugués</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">O implante de CDI em crianças é um problema importante. O primeiro problema é o implante da derivação do CDI dentro do ventrículo direito com eletrodo que não é adequado para o tamanho da cavidade e o desenvolvimento de da aderências entreo eletrodo e a válvula tricúspide. Nesta população teremos que extrair estas derivações durante o seguimento destes pacientes, e na nossa experiência, esta extração é um desafio, incluindo as derivações recentes. por outro lado, temos usado recentemente a técnica descrita por GASPARINI e cols (J Cardiovasc Electrophysiol, Vol. 16, pp. 1381-1383) com eletrodo na veia cava inferior.</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">Qual é a sua exepriência com esta técinca?</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Lucida Grande; min-height: 16px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">Didier Klug, MD, PhD</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">Hospital de Cardiologia de Lille</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">Universidade de Lille</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial">França</FONT></DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial"><BR><BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial"><BR></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>